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Nikon D7500 Announced


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Starting at $1249.95 body only and $1749.95 body with an 18-140 VR kit lens. The specs look good for the price.
Nikon D7500 DSLR | 20.9 MP DX Format Digital SLR Camera



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It appears Nikon will never learn. So we get 4K and a headphone jack, so maybe they plan to take video seriously, but with the same AF as 7200 my expectations are not high. We get another stop in ISO sensitivity and still more pixels to meter with (how many do we need?), and a deeper buffer and 8 FPS.

 

But this is another case of Nikon giveth and Nikon taketh away. What do we lose? They have removed the second SD card slot and AI(s) indexing. Why? To save money on a $1250 DX body? Or to better differentiate it from the D500?

 

And while I can get a fully articulating touch screen with a D5600, it is still not available in their flagship DX bodies.

 

Like the D3400, this is a crippled upgrade to its predecessor. While I am happy to see Nikon continuing to improve its DX lineup, I am really frustrated to see major features killed in the process.


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If I had a 7200 I wouldn't bother with the 7500 for sure.



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This will interesting to play with when I get one. But I won't be putting up my D500 for it though.



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I pretty much agree with ScottinPollock on this. Everyone expects improvements but when you start taking things away, people... especially the press, really notice. And, there's really no way to sugar coat it. For many people, the lack of a second card slot... especially in light of the addition of 4k video, will be a deal breaker. The vertical grip loss is similarly unpopular.

 

The general consensus I'm seeing from most people who've actually studied the specs on this camera is, it's not enough of an upgrade to warrant moving from previous 7xxx cameras. Indeed, some are calling it a sidegrade at best. May as well remove the prism and call it D5700x.

 

--Ron

 

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May as well remove the prism and call it D5700x.

 

--Ron

 

That's it! They just got the order of the first two numbers wrong. Didn't know about the lack of support for vertical grip. )c:

 

It also appears this is an all plastic build like the 5000/3000 series.


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That's it! They just got the order of the first two numbers wrong. Didn't know about the lack of support for vertical grip. )c:

 

It also appears this is an all plastic build like the 5000/3000 series.

 

Yep, the magnesium alloy frame is history. Also, they removed the proper strap lugs and replaced them with what they used to use on consumer film cameras. There are other takeaways as well. Nikon Rumors and DPReview have fairly extensive coverage (although DPR seemed to miss the omission of a vertical grip).

 

There are some nice pros but, I think if you're shooting a D7200 (or earlier) and you don't shoot video, you may want to carefully weigh your options before committing to this camera. 

 

Nikon's stated desire going forward is to push prospective customers towards the more expensive items in their lineup. I see this camera as part of that philosophy. 

 

--Ron 



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Nikon's stated desire going forward is to push prospective customers towards the more expensive items in their lineup. I see this camera as part of that philosophy. 

 

--Ron 

 

In my mind Nikon has always done this... and it is not only maddening, it simply hasn't worked. They specifically hold back features hoping you choose the next higher model; even features that cost nothing to implement (like removing bracketing from 3000 series). They already have the code... they simply hold it back.

 

Their competition seems to want to offer every feature they can for the price point, and even rolling out new features in firmware down the road when they can.

 

Nikon is now making excuses for the lack of a second SD card slot saying there wasn't room and that this was an unfortunate decision based on design. That's a bold faced lie! Fuji can do it in an even smaller camera with less room inside.

 

Here is hoping the decision to dumb down their prosumer bodies was made long before their need to restructure the company and that this is not their way of thinking going forward. Too many cameras Nikon... all distinguished by arbitrarily neutered feature sets. You need three DX cameras at $500, $1000, and $2000 (consumer, prosumer, and pro). Do everything you can with each given its price point and stop this "well if we put xyz in the thousand dollar one maybe folks won't buy the two thousand dollar one" crap. At those three price points there should be more than enough room to clearly distinguish each model without playing games and confusing your potential customers.



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Maybe we should just shut up. After all... we want Nikon to succeed.

 

It was so much easier back in the days dood talks about, for SLR's anyway. You had the 'F' and then... uh, well... that's it.

 

Of course they added the Nikkormat later on... which I suppose started this whole idea of selling up. But I kind of pine for those days. 

 

I agree though that they could slim down the line a bit. They do need a camera to serve as a gateway to their system. I mean, that's the thing. Get them hooked on the system and, assuming you don't do something really stupid, and continue to produce quality lenses and accessories, you have a customer for life.

 

But at the same time, you don't want to confuse them to the point where they're afraid to pull the trigger for fear of being obsoleted before they get home with their stuff. About half the questions we get here on this forum have to do with purchasing decisions. What to buy. And, I understand where these people are coming from. It can be really confusing even if you're not a neophyte. 

 

So, yeah... unfortunately, we now have two cameras where Nikon has both added and subtracted features. More confusion.

 

--Ron



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Maybe we should just shut up.


LOL. IMHO, Nikon really needs to reevaluate why folks buy DSLRs (or even mirrorless), as opposed to just shooting with their iPhone. Every one of their cameras needs bracketing/HDR, HSS, radio off camera flash, and Live View/video at least as good as a smart phone.

One could also argue it should be no less convenient to post photos to social media (among other things). SnapBridge is an incredible kludge, and I will usually use my phone because if it.

The focus should be on what you can do with a real camera that you simply can't with a phone, without putting up a bunch of kludgey barriers on what the phone excels at. Then, the decision requires much less consideration.

And yes... we all want Nikon to succeed. Good stuff.

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Update, I will give an in-depth report on the camera when it arrives in hand, I will be getting one issued from Nikon directly.



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New here. I ordered one this afternoon. Should arrive on Wednesday. It's my first Nikon DSLR and it seemed like a decent entry point based on cost and features. I don't really care about battery grips backup SD cards as I take photos for fun, mainly just photos of animals at the Arboretum and other cool stuff around town and traveling. Guess we'll see. Seemed like as good a place as any to start.



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I bought the d7000 and then the d7200 almost the day they became available. When I knew the one that turned out to be the d7500 was coming I built up the funds to acquire one on about the same schedule. However, when I found out the pixel resolution was REDUCED I declared the d7500 dead on arrival. I am rather baffled at Nikon's reasoning here.


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I bought the d7000 and then the d7200 almost the day they became available. When I knew the one that turned out to be the d7500 was coming I built up the funds to acquire one on about the same schedule. However, when I found out the pixel resolution was REDUCED I declared the d7500 dead on arrival. I am rather baffled at Nikon's reasoning here.

 

Nikon's reasoning, I believe, is that you're a good candidate for a D500 and they don't want to muck things up by dangling another D7xxx body in front of you that works almost as well or better.

 

--Ron



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Nikon's reasoning, I believe, is that you're a good candidate for a D500 and they don't want to muck things up by dangling another D7xxx body in front of you that works almost as well or better.

 

--Ron

One can look at it in another way. When there were no plans for a D300 replacement, the D7xxx was the top of the line DX range. Now the D500 is here, the D7500 is held back to the position the D80 and D90 once had.

 

 

I bought the d7000 and then the d7200 almost the day they became available. When I knew the one that turned out to be the d7500 was coming I built up the funds to acquire one on about the same schedule. However, when I found out the pixel resolution was REDUCED I declared the d7500 dead on arrival. I am rather baffled at Nikon's reasoning here.

Megapixels aren't everything. The D7500 gives wonderfully high DR and stays clean at higher ISO than the 24 MP sensors did. The crippled F-mount is a worse handicap than the sensor.



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Nikon's reasoning, I believe, is that you're a good candidate for a D500 and they don't want to muck things up by dangling another D7xxx body in front of you that works almost as well or better.

 

--Ron

I expect you are right, and I know they were wrong.


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Peter, you're right about the improved sensor and I'm sure they're very nice cameras, but when they killed AIS indexing, took out the magnesium frame, dumped the extra card slot and decided not to make provisions for a battery grip, the D7500 became a non-starter for me.

 

The good news (for Nikon at least) is that I find both the D500 and D850 cameras to be quite compelling. That doesn't necessarily equal a buy because money is involved, but at least I'm still interested in some parts of their product line. However, I've dropped the D7xxx cameras down to the same point that I have the D5xxx and D3xxx. That is, they no longer interest me in the least.

 

--Ron



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I doubt that Nikon's intent is to have everyone interested in their entire product line.  Rather they would want to provide a wide range of products in order to have something for everyone, at multiple monetary and ability/skill levels.  The fact that you are interested in the D500 and D850 indicates they are succeeding.



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Well, I was interested in both the D500 and the D810 before they introduced the D7500. I even expressed interest here in the forums in purchasing a D500 when they first came out. Unfortunately, I was thinking more with my heart than my brain. After doing the math, things didn't add up for me. Ditto with the D810/D850 line... in fact even more so.

 

In the recent past at least, the D7xxx line has probably been Nikon's best value in terms of both costs and features. I probably would have been perfectly satisfied with a D7500 had they not gelded it. And, since I'm mostly retired and money is always an issue, I may well have ended up replacing my venerable D7000 with a new D7500 (rather than the more expensive D500). Now, it's unlikely that I'll upgrade anytime soon because I just can't justify the purchase of either of the two camera bodies that do still interest me.

 

So, yeah, they succeeded in turning off a potential upgrade customer with the D7500. 

 

--Ron



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I doubt that Nikon's intent is to have everyone interested in their entire product line.  Rather they would want to provide a wide range of products in order to have something for everyone, at multiple monetary and ability/skill levels.  The fact that you are interested in the D500 and D850 indicates they are succeeding.

They have not succeeded with me. If my d7200 were to fail my solution would be another d7200 or Canon.