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[Ron]

In case you missed it, Adobe is now offering their US$9.99 per month Photoshop/Lightroom photography deal to everyone. You don't need to be a previous owner of Photoshop to get this special pricing. It does require an annual commitment though.

 

The offer includes Photoshop CC as well as Lightroom for both desktop and IOS. No Android version yet.

 

More details here.

 

--Ron

 

 

 

[Kenafein]

In case you missed it, Adobe is now offering their US$9.99 per month Photoshop/Lightroom photography deal to everyone. You don't need to be a previous owner of Photoshop to get this special pricing. It does require an annual commitment though.

 

The offer includes Photoshop CC as well as Lightroom for both desktop and IOS. No Android version yet.

 

More details here.

 

--Ron

How do 3rd party plugins work with CC?

[Adam]

How do 3rd party plugins work with CC?

In the same was as photoshop CS6 pretty much.  The two versions are (still) very similar.

[Kenafein]

In the same was as photoshop CS6 pretty much.  The two versions are (still) very similar.

So it is still locally installed?

[Russ]

Yes. It just phones home once a month(?) to check you're licence is up-to-date or something.

[Ron]

How do 3rd party plugins work with CC?

 

LIke everyone else said, the applications are pretty much the same as the standard Photoshop and Lightroom applications. You can use the same plugins, etc. Adobe just checks every month or so to be sure you're still subscribed. 

 

--Ron

[TBonz]

Yup...every year I photograph the high school's all night graduation party - it is an all volunteer effort by parents called Project Graduation.  It is designed to be a safe party for the graduates.  Equally important - with over 350 kids each year, it is a big party with lots to do and prizes to win.  The kids have a great time in a safe environment.  I've photographed it for several years.  I bring along my computer and usually post a few photos during the event and have the goal of getting all the photos up before most of the kids wake up the next day.  Unless I connect to the Internet via my phone or pad, I have no access.  This year's party was Monday night and it was my first time where I was using this deal.  No problem - the software is locally installed and I had no problem using it without any connectivity.  I confirmed that prior to purchasing since that is a situation I deal with occasionally.

 

Here's a couple of pix...

 

 

 

 

 

[Kenafein]

Thanks guys, makes sense for bandwidth concerns, but I thought they were heading towards a SaaS, totally in the cloud, model for Photoshop at least.  

[Eagles1181]

Thanks guys, makes sense for bandwidth concerns, but I thought they were heading towards a SaaS, totally in the cloud, model for Photoshop at least.  

 

They probably would like to, but to many of their customers want local control.

 

Eagle

[TBonz]

And many of their customers don't necessarily have Internet access when using their products...

[Merco_61]

Cloud computing works for productivity suites and e-mail but not much else and Adobe know that. They would like to move fully to the cloud as PS is one of the most pirated pieces of software ever, but for how long would they still be the industry standard if it didn't work everywhere?

[Ron]

I realize that Adobe's move to the Creative Cloud marketing model is not popular with everyone. I personally don't like the concept myself but I'm afraid that, going forward, that's what we're going to have. Fortunately, they did see fit to unbundle Photoshop and Lightroom from the full CC suite and make them available at a much more affordable price. 

 

There are other alternatives ... Corel makes one. But, I think most people prefer Photoshop and Lightroom. I know I do. 

 

--Ron

[TBonz]

As Peter said, Adobe knows that it can't put PS or LR anywhere but locally or they will give up market share to products people can have locally.  A day will likely come when there is sufficient access available everywhere that it would work, but not now.  

 

I have barely scratched the surface of PhotoShop's capabilities - mostly because I haven't had the time or the need.  I do well over 99% of my work in LightRoom and I expect it to stay that way for right now.  I just don't need all the bells and whistles that PhotoShop offers right now.  In a sense, it does not limit your imagination at all, but I think in some cases that is its biggest fault.  It definitely takes a significant effort to dig in and learn its many facets.

[Ron]

Most people don't even scratch the surface of Photoshop Elements... let alone the full version of Photoshop. And learning how to use all those capabilities ... whether Elements or Photoshop takes considerable time and effort. Time that might be better spent making photographs. But back in the film days many masters of the craft spent as much or more time in the darkroom as they did out shooting. The move to digital didn't eliminate behind the scenes work it just changed it. 

 

The amount of work you can do in Lightroom is truly amazing. And, the fact that you can use the same filters as other Photoshop style applications means that you can often get away without ever going to Photoshop itself. 

 

I guess I misinterpreted Peter's remarks about CC. There are still many people who are ... gosh so violently opposed to Adobe's current marketing model that just mentioning paying a monthly fee to use the software can bring down fire and brimstone. 

 

--Ron

[Merco_61]

I have nothing against CC, even if I won't upgrade until I have to. Cloud computing is quite another matter...

[TBonz]

I went for the upgrade very recently...and only did it because I was still using LR4 and wanted LR5...Thought about just purchasing the new version of LR, but I had never gotten PS on my Mac.  Thus, when I had something that needed PS, I had to move the file to a PC, do my work and then move it back which was a pain in the backside...The PC is several years old too so it was far from speedy when I used it...It was also an old version of Elements, so, I decided to bite the bullet...

 

I want to experiment with some things to get some experience with PS and once I figure it out, I expect they may increase sales so there was definitely some motivation to get PS on the Mac anyway...

[Ron]

I have nothing against CC, even if I won't upgrade until I have to. Cloud computing is quite another matter...

 

We are quite agreed on this point! I have never trusted the cloud and seriously doubt I ever will. 

 

I went for the upgrade very recently...and only did it because I was still using LR4 and wanted LR5...Thought about just purchasing the new version of LR, but I had never gotten PS on my Mac.  Thus, when I had something that needed PS, I had to move the file to a PC, do my work and then move it back which was a pain in the backside...The PC is several years old too so it was far from speedy when I used it...It was also an old version of Elements, so, I decided to bite the bullet...

 

I want to experiment with some things to get some experience with PS and once I figure it out, I expect they may increase sales so there was definitely some motivation to get PS on the Mac anyway...

 

I'm a recent convert too... so, I'm still at the finger painting stages. No essay questions please. 

 

You know, of course, that you can install CC on two separate computers. They don't even have to be the same architecture. Your hardware and operating systems just needs to meet the minimum requirements.

 

--Ron

[Kenafein]

Cloud computing is the future and we've all been using it for ages.  You guys trust all your email to Google, Yahoo and the like, don't you?  I love using Google Docs as my word processor.  It's available everywhere, on any computer, and I will never lose anything if my machine melts down.  Safety concerns aside, cloud computing will allow you to have a less powerful system, like a tablet, and run powerful applications kind of like a terminal to the internet.  The only thing really slowing us down is the evil telecoms and their abysmally slow internet services.    

[TBonz]

Yup...used to be big boxes stuck away in some big protected room somewhere with shared processing time - people accessed the systems through cards and tapes...then everything became distributed...Had a boss tell me back in the late 80s that with the advent of PCs, IT folks would no longer be required because everyone could manage their own system  silly boss    I laughed as much at his statement then as I am now!

 

It became such a nightmare to manage all those systems that they are finding it cheaper to go to the "cloud" which is basically not too different than where things used to be...just many more boxes that are quite a bit smaller and more powerful than the old big boxes, but still stuck away in some big protected data centers...