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my impression of Z9. will be getting good bad and ugly.


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fallout666

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as of today after doing a Renaissance Fair and car auction and having some understanding of camera. here ugly and bad for a lot of people. the menu system to lager and people will get lost using it. do to fact will not recall where some stuff at to make changes to camera. the major flaw that's so bad and ugly. you find many times ? can not tell what it does at all. other times ? mark will say what it does and this happens. tell what it does but does not explain it good enough or so hard to figure out. so need really good int understand or find way to understand it. other ugly part is this. i have to use glass to see. for some reason my mic so long and large. i can not use EVF do to fact eyesight cause me not to be able to tell if video in focus. do to fact how close the EVF is to body. not bad thing or ugly thing. you need to make sure you wheel on top left locked into place or it move change your setting. other issue you have when taking video make sure do this. if going to take videos. make sure you keep all 1080p 4K and 8K next to each other. or will not know which video is 1080p 4K or 8K. since show all as video file. when you look at file i give how much time date and number to show how big file is. also if your first time doing videos on it. go out test out at home and learn it. i went out with out test and not know what auto focus point does or will work for what i need. do not understand what square box with bullseye does and when i hit ? mark find out about it gave no info. when i get done looking at photo and videos will get better report. later i love camera great camera. menu system and video part does not explain what some auto focus  option you have sucks. the menu will scare to many people away too. 

 



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Not to be critical Falloout, but it is very difficult to read your posts. With no capital letters at the beginning of each sentence, and no paragraphs, it just blurs together as one mass of words.



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tom_sweet

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I have used a long line of Nikon cameras, ever since switching from a pro-body Canon (film) to my first digital the Nikon D70, D90, D2 (and some other D2 versions).  After that it was a D3 (several versions like the D3Xs), D4, D800, D850, D5 and now the Z9.  I am pretty familiar with the menu system from all the previous cameras.  Like so many users of the Z9, I find it to be the best all around camera that I've ever used for both stills and (finally) video.  Intermittently while using the Nikons, I tried a couple of Canon pro bodies as well.  When you are using the high end pro bodies, there's not really that much difference.  Some might have an advantage with focus that goes away in time, and others might have better video for a period of time.  

 

The Nikon Z9 has an excellent autofocus system, amazing image quality and very fast performance for sports and action.  If I have one small issue, it's that the images seem to have slightly more noise at high ISO settings than my Nikon D5 DSLR, but I find it can be easily corrected with minimal (unnoticeable) loss of quality.  



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I have used a long line of Nikon cameras, ever since switching from a pro-body Canon (film) to my first digital the Nikon D70, D90, D2 (and some other D2 versions).  After that it was a D3 (several versions like the D3Xs), D4, D800, D850, D5 and now the Z9.  I am pretty familiar with the menu system from all the previous cameras.  Like so many users of the Z9, I find it to be the best all around camera that I've ever used for both stills and (finally) video.  Intermittently while using the Nikons, I tried a couple of Canon pro bodies as well.  When you are using the high end pro bodies, there's not really that much difference.  Some might have an advantage with focus that goes away in time, and others might have better video for a period of time.  

 

The Nikon Z9 has an excellent autofocus system, amazing image quality and very fast performance for sports and action.  If I have one small issue, it's that the images seem to have slightly more noise at high ISO settings than my Nikon D5 DSLR, but I find it can be easily corrected with minimal (unnoticeable) loss of quality.  

i got that too. but as for person with learning disability and huge compression issue hard for me to under stand a lot of Z9 menu system. also found out do not use nikon 17-28 in overcast or cloudy day where its semi dark. lens can not autofocus good enough to keep up. i have 5 days of   Brevard Renaissance Fair for jousting and other photo to go over. got mad since most photo really bad and have not gotten the urge or will to look at and edit. if do really bad job get depression or want to look and see good stuff if have any


tom_sweet i found out if using lens that not long enough and your trying to get focus on subject it will not stay and lose focus. my nikon Z 17-28mm and nikon Z 28-75mm will lose focus a lot do to fact to far way for action shot and trying to lock on. could be both lens not on par with holy trinity lens too. 



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tom_sweet i found out if using lens that not long enough and your trying to get focus on subject it will not stay and lose focus. my nikon Z 17-28mm and nikon Z 28-75mm will lose focus a lot do to fact to far way for action shot and trying to lock on. could be both lens not on par with holy trinity lens too. 

 

Trying to get by with cheapish glass on the flagship models got frustrating back in the D3S days. The D3 and D700 could handle less advanced lens chips and less than stellar optics, the D3S with its tighter integration of the AF processor and in-lens chip led to a much bigger difference in AF performance between the trinity and the consumer-grade lenses. This, apparently, still holds true.



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tom_sweet

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i got that too. but as for person with learning disability and huge compression issue hard for me to under stand a lot of Z9 menu system. also found out do not use nikon 17-28 in overcast or cloudy day where its semi dark. lens can not autofocus good enough to keep up. i have 5 days of   Brevard Renaissance Fair for jousting and other photo to go over. got mad since most photo really bad and have not gotten the urge or will to look at and edit. if do really bad job get depression or want to look and see good stuff if have any


tom_sweet i found out if using lens that not long enough and your trying to get focus on subject it will not stay and lose focus. my nikon Z 17-28mm and nikon Z 28-75mm will lose focus a lot do to fact to far way for action shot and trying to lock on. could be both lens not on par with holy trinity lens too. 

 

The Nikon menu system is complicated for most of us.  I have been studying it for some weeks now.  Think about it this way:  The PHOTO SHOOTING MENU is the primary one you will use (except for video).  You use that menu to select ISO SENSITIVITY SETTINGS, METERING, FLASH CONTROL, and FOCUS MODE, and AF-AREA MODE.  The CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU lets you set miscellaneous things related to Focus, Metering, and a couple of other settings.  I find that once I select in the CUSTOM SETTING MENUS a few of the setting I normally use, I don't mess with the CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU any more. 

You can select in PHOTO SHOOTING MENU A, B, C, or D.  If you want, you can just leave it on the A and change whatever settings in the PHOTO SHOOTING MENU you want to change.  Or, you can set up the A (for example) for sports, and you can label the A SPORTS.  Then select ISO Sensitivity Settings Auto ISO sensitivity control, you can go down to METERING and select Matrix Metering (I'll mention a related Customer Settings Menu selection I use that goes with Matrix), select FOCUS MODE and choose AF-C Continuous AF, go next to AF-Area Mode and try 3D Tracking, and go next to AF SUBJECT DETECTION OPTIONS and either leave it on Auto or select People.  

The items under the CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU are not that important (you learn them later as you go).  However, there is one under b. Metering, b4. Matrix metering face detection, that I like to use.  
 



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tom_sweet

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Want to have a "permanent" copy of your settings in case of card failure or formatting:

 

Navigate to the SETUP MENU in your menu and save your settings to the CF card in slot 1 (the only option).  A good way to create a more secure backup of your Z9 menu settings is to then take the CF card out and put it into a card reader.  Copy the .bin file on the card to a drive on your computer.  You can later copy the .bin file back to the CF card and place it in slot 1.  

 

That way, even if you accidentally format the CF card in camera, you can always get the backup file.  

 

Also, keep in mind that if you format the CF card but haven't changed settings in your menu, you can just resave the settings to the card after formatting.