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[ntz]

Hello people,

I'm glad that I joined the forum ..

I have one problem that drives me nuts - I am unable to find a combination of settings on my camera (D7200) that would stop focus to be adjusted when firing a release shutter with infrared remote control ML-L3 (it has just one button) ..

Problem:

I want to set my camera to NOT adjust focus when autofocus is ON when firing a shuter with this remote control .. normally I set on shutter release button just only shutter release, not AF-ON and on AF/AE-L button I set a function AF-ON, so to trigger autofocus, I press AF-L/AE-L button instead pressing release shutter which halfway does nothing ..

My workflow is like this when using tripod (I switch to U1 or U2 settings profile because settings above are stored there - eg this specific buttons func swap for tripod so that I don't have to change that manually): I just use LiveView with tripod, zoom where I want to focus, then use AF-ON with AF-L/AE-L button .. Once the composition is done, I do baaam and fire the shutter (no matter if MUP mode or as usual) .. I was doing that always in 2sec delay mode until I bought recently new ML-L3 remote control with hope, that this device will allow me to do it all smarter and smoother .... but ..

.. but with above settings (and any other combination from camera menu) I am unable to stop ML-L3 when firing shutter adjusting a focus by doing AF-ON on pressing the button .. So in the other words, it doesn't copy the settings on camera's release shutter button .. Even in MUP mode it automatically does AF-ON before putting the mirror away .. Only way that works is to switch always the camera to AF off mode (on lens and on the body with slider) ..

This drives me nuts .. Please help me to resolve this .. if this won't work with ML-L3, it's okay, things like that happen but advise me please if for example MC-DC2 does it right ..

Summary:

* ML-L3 doesn't copy the on-camera settings of release shutter button (for example when you set there just release shutter without AF-ON)

** on D7200 is not unfortunately function that will keep AF/AE-L after pressing and releasing any button (some of fn configurable buttons or AF-L/AE-L)

*** result is that ML-L3 `always' adjust AF by triggering AF-ON when pressed with autofocus on (not turned off by sliders on camera and lens body)

Q1: is there a way to resolve this with ML-L3 ? Some settings that I missed

Q2: is there any other remote shutter like MC-DC2 that will solve this (for example by that it will copy the on-camera settings of main release shutter button) ?

thanks much and regards, dan

ps. sorry for my English .. not my born language, I hope I've explained my problem well

[Nikon Shooter]

 sorry for my English .. not my born language, 

Don't worry, I'm in the same situation!

BTW, nobody comes with a born language but we all acquire a mother tongue!

[ntz]

Hello,

 

could be somebody so kind and confirm at least the behaviour of MC-DC2 remote control ? Does it behave same like ML-L3 or does in here the button copy the settings of shutter release button on camera body ?

 

thanks and regards

[Merco_61]

The MC-DC2 doesn't activate the AF on half-press with the back button set to focus.

 

Using WMU on a smartphone leaves you full control of when the AF will activate as well.

[ntz]

The MC-DC2 doesn't activate the AF on half-press with the back button set to focus.

 

Using WMU on a smartphone leaves you full control of when the AF will activate as well.

 

thank you very much for reference ...

 

I hope we're in sync with that ... ML-L3 doesn't have 1/2 press mode (and I believe MC-DC2 also) .. it just triggers instant AF-ON operation (autofocus adjusting) while pressed ..

 

workflow is:

 

1) use (zoom in) LV (live view) and focus somewhere (as I said above, I AFing when using tripod with AE-L/AF-L button and 1/2 pressing release shutter button does nothing)

2) baaam, release shutter with remote button with LV on (on AF-S, but doesn't matter now)

 

^^ will it automatically adjust the focus when AF if on while using remote control ?

[Merco_61]

I will have to try some things out when I get home from work. I will get back to you on what settings I have and how it behaves.

[ntz]

I will have to try some things out when I get home from work. I will get back to you on what settings I have and how it behaves.

 

Thanks brother !!

 

by the way, there are two known workarounds (sorry for troubling you with more text - I just want to precisely describe the situation) for ML-L3:

 

1) every time, before using remote control, you can switch AF to M on camera body after preparing composition with AF on .. that will cause the releasing shutter with remote control won't adjust AF further .. this ofc implies that during the photography session will be this switch used many times - I don't like this idea

 

2) another workaround is to have set AF-C mode for viewfinder so if you'll use your LV (with AF-S as usual for landscape) to prepare composition, you can then turn off the the LV, which will fallback to viewfinder and then AF-ON won't be triggered also with remote control (if you have there AF-C - or more specifically if you have shutter release priority set - eg custom settings menu a1 - AF-C priority selection) .. This other workaround involves between changing compositions to switch (a lot) between LV and viewfinder modes (where you also should cover the viewfinder) which is also not good, maybe even worse that workaround above ..

 

3) as implied by #1, if you don't use AF (AF switch to M on camera body), remote control won't trigger AF

 

goal:

 

is it possible to effectively maintain an AE/AF lock function while using remote control with AF on (A mode) while using thgis other remote controller MC-DC2 (or does it behave completely same as ML-L3) ??

 

regards, dan

[Merco_61]

The MC-DC2 does have a half-press position where the same function as on the shutter button works. In my case, this is waking the camera from sleep, starting VR if the lens is so equipped and locking exposure. The exposure lock is controlled by custom function c1. The AF is controlled from the AE-L/AF-L button and nowhere else.

The remote works the same way whether I am in LV or finder mode and whether I am in AF-S or AF-C mode. I have tried this with both AF...D and AF-S lenses.

[ntz]

The MC-DC2 does have a half-press position where the same function as on the shutter button works. In my case, this is waking the camera from sleep, starting VR if the lens is so equipped and locking exposure. The exposure lock is controlled by custom function c1. The AF is controlled from the AE-L/AF-L button and nowhere else.

The remote works the same way whether I am in LV or finder mode and whether I am in AF-S or AF-C mode. I have tried this with both AF...D and AF-S lenses.

 

That's the great information .. thank you very much for testing that for me .. so in the other words

 

It properly copies the current settings of release shutter button on camera body so the a4 `AF activation' func + f4 `Assign AE-L/AF-L button' works as expected with this remote control ? (eg no AF adjusting when a4->OFF (no af on release shutter) + f4->AF-ON (AF activation moved on AE/AF-L button) ?

 

please confirm this yes/no ... I appreciate very much your help ... this bloody simplistic ML-L3 just stabbed my from behind because it really doesn't have 1/2 press mode and it behaves pretty uniq - like special button which cannot be configured like a4 release shutter button

 

thanks much, dan

[Merco_61]

It works exactly as expected and just like the MC-30A does on the 10-pin bodies.

Have you played around with the wireless control app? It works quite well, with focus by clicking where you want it on the screen and shutter release by pressing the release area in the app.

[ntz]

It works exactly as expected and just like the MC-30A does on the 10-pin bodies.

Have you played around with the wireless control app? It works quite well, with focus by clicking where you want it on the screen and shutter release by pressing the release area in the app.

 

to be honest, I'm kinda old-school guy ... I am going to wilderness with my camera to actually escape from things like wifis, smartphones screens and apps on them and so on ... to be honest, I've never tried a wireless app nor I was been ever thinking of it ...

 

thank you very much for clarification how it works .. I've already ordered a mc-dc2 remote shutter and looking forward for it ... I've been using for many years just delayed shutter for shooting with tripod, I am not sure how I went into thinking about remote control but I did and I've bet on the wrong horse and bought ML-L3 which is almost useless for me (or let's say - it's less useful, it's only useful when shooting in full AF Manual mode, which is not my usual workflow ...)

 

now I am looking forward for mc-dc3 that should finally work as I wanted it to work ..

 

thanks for input and regards, dan