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Adobe Creative Cloud 2019

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I see that Adobe Creative Cloud apps have been given their annual fall upgrade.

 

I have the Photography Plan so the only apps (I hate that word) I have are Photoshop CC, Bridge CC and Lightroom Classic CC. My workstation runs Windows 7 Pro.

 

The interesting bits (to me at least) were the dropping of certain operating systems from the supported list. Specifically, Windows 8, 8.1 and early versions of Windows 10. A number of Mac OS versions were also dropped. For the moment at least, Windows 7 seems to still be on the supported list although Adobe is warning that going forward, this will NOT be the case.

 

I should point out that I'm not at all a fan of Windows 10. Yes, I use it... I have it installed on a laptop but I honestly think that Windows 7 looks far more polished. Windows 10 looks like something out of a Junior High coding class and, as Microsoft has pointed out, will soon be sold as a 'service' where you pay a subscription fee to keep it updated.

 

Anyway, my dilemma going forward, is whether to bite the bullet and upgrade (either by buying new hardware (the preferred method) or by upgrading the OS. I really pine for the years long ago when my PowerMac 8600 lasted for a decade even as many OS X early adopters dumped them for iMacs and whatnot. 

 

I suppose that I could return to Apple... but these days, money is a four letter word in this house.

 

Thoughts?

 

--Ron



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I see that Adobe Creative Cloud apps have been given their annual fall upgrade.

 

I have the Photography Plan so the only apps (I hate that word) I have are Photoshop CC, Bridge CC and Lightroom Classic CC. My workstation runs Windows 7 Pro.

 

The interesting bits (to me at least) were the dropping of certain operating systems from the supported list. Specifically, Windows 8, 8.1 and early versions of Windows 10. A number of Mac OS versions were also dropped. For the moment at least, Windows 7 seems to still be on the supported list although Adobe is warning that going forward, this will NOT be the case.

 

I should point out that I'm not at all a fan of Windows 10. Yes, I use it... I have it installed on a laptop but I honestly think that Windows 7 looks far more polished. Windows 10 looks like something out of a Junior High coding class and, as Microsoft has pointed out, will soon be sold as a 'service' where you pay a subscription fee to keep it updated.

 

Anyway, my dilemma going forward, is whether to bite the bullet and upgrade (either by buying new hardware (the preferred method) or by upgrading the OS. I really pine for the years long ago when my PowerMac 8600 lasted for a decade even as many OS X early adopters dumped them for iMacs and whatnot. 

 

I suppose that I could return to Apple... but these days, money is a four letter word in this house.

 

Thoughts?

 

--Ron

It will be interesting to see what else we will be paying usages fees for.  How about use of ASCII codes?  Let's see Tony, would you like to continue using your keyboard, it will then cost a low, low $3000.00 a month.  Honestly, it just becomes sickening how these corporations can dream up ways of sticking it to their most loyal customers.  Sad state of affairs.  Tony


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I'm still using my PS 5 cause I have so far refused to upgrade to Adobe CC.  Yes I have to use the DNG converter to edit the files but at least it works.


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It will be interesting to see what else we will be paying usages fees for.  How about use of ASCII codes?  Let's see Tony, would you like to continue using your keyboard, it will then cost a low, low $3000.00 a month.  Honestly, it just becomes sickening how these corporations can dream up ways of sticking it to their most loyal customers.  Sad state of affairs.  Tony

 

Well, at least on the Windows side, Microsoft is moving to what they call Windows as a Service. Presumably you would pay a monthly fee to keep your operating system up to date with the latest features and fixes. So yeah, you'd be paying for those ASCII codes. 

 

In the beginning, Apple used to post their System upgrades on information services such as CompuServe for anyone to download for free. It was nirvana. Then, when they felt like they needed a new revenue stream, they started charging for their System upgrades... around System 7 or so if memory serves me correctly. Eventually, I think they discovered that having most of their users on the latest OS actually saved them money in support costs so they went back to free upgrades. But Apple is a very greedy company... even more so than when Jobs ran it. So, I don't know what they'll do going forward.

 

Anyway, apparently Microsoft wants to force the issue and since they pretty much own the business software market, they can do what they want. On the other hand, they could be shooting themselves in the foot. There was a time when IBM thought they could dictate terms too and nobody talks too much about them anymore.

 

I'm going to be looking at new iMacs ... not sure what I'll do. I really can't afford to drop a bundle on anything at the moment. But Mac OS, going at least as far back as OS 8 has always been a more elegant OS than anything Microsoft, so I would be looking forward to that should I decide to jump back to Apple.

 

Decisions, decisions... LOL

 


I'm still using my PS 5 cause I have so far refused to upgrade to Adobe CC.  Yes I have to use the DNG converter to edit the files but at least it works.

 

Yeah, I understand... and considered doing that, along with trying other RAW image editors, etc. But, I wanted some of the newer features that were being developed and after doing the math, I found that paying Adobe for their Photography Plan would actually be cheaper for me than going through the yearly upgrade cycle that some companies still cling to. So, this is not really about Adobe except in so much as they've reached a point where they're requiring that users be on a much later OS than what many of us are using. We all knew this was coming but it's still a bit unsettling.

 

Photography these days is sort of like baking a cake, but they keep changing the recipe so you never seem to have all the ingredients at the same time. 

 

--Ron



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I picked up a MacBook Pro in 2012 and have to say it took me less time to adjust to it than I thought it would.  After every year of Windows (MSDOS before that!) I thought it would take me awhile to adjust but it didn't.  And, since I use Windows on my work PC I keep up there.  BUT, I have to agree that the newer Windows interface is a real pain for me.  I don't use it enough to have adjusted to it and they moved enough things around that it takes me longer to do things than I think it should...Back then, I did a comparison between Windows and Mac systems.  Turns out that they were about equal in price assuming the same internal HW (CPU, Graphics, Memory, Disk).  The big difference is that most Windows systems do not have the level of hardware that the Macs do.  It kept going through about this time last year when a beverage spill finally did in the mother board.  Note that the spill was 2.5 years prior!

 

I do need to update my OS though...starting to fall behind and need to get everything updated.  Thanks for the reminder :) !


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PC is far and away a cheaper option, with considerably higher level options with a much longer potential lifespan due to upgradability. Additionally, with iMac's being an all in one device, you need to suffer the costs of replacing the whole system should something go wrong, not just the individual component (why do I need to replace my CPU because the monitor failed?) Apple source ultra cheap, mass-produced components, whereas with a PC if you want, you can have specialised, very high-quality components should you want to.

 

This price per dollar performance is multiplied the higher specifications you want to go. There are many, many examples on Youtube of creators ditching Apple because of this ridiculous situation.

Lastly the whole "Mac's are more reliable" thing seems to not be as true as it once was. Every update of either MacOS or Adobe breaks the other. Not once do I see such problems for PC users. Also, windows as a future subscription model is not exactly true. In fact, they have recently gone the other way when they gave everyone on W7 and W8 a free upgrade to W10.

 

Ultimately it comes down to what operating system you prefer and how much you are willing to pay for that preference.


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Well, the free upgrade to Windows 10 is long gone... and has been for quite awhile. Microsoft has also recently increased the price of Windows 10 as well. And the story I read about Microsoft's plan to market Windows as a Service is no more than a couple of weeks old. Could be wrong though. But it sounds like something they'd do... if they could get away with it.

 

I understand what you're saying about the how easy it is to upgrade windows pc's. Yeah, been there, done that. Both with Macs going back to the eighties and nineties, and with PC's after that. It was fun once. I'm much older now so it's not so much fun anymore. Sometimes once you get started, one thing leads to another and you end up replacing everything except the case. That new super duper graphics card's gonna need more power ya know. 

 

These days I want to work with my computer... not on it.

 

And, c'mon man.... Adobe breaks everything. Macs and PC's. :)

 

But yeah, you have valid points and that's what makes doing this so hard. It's never easy to jump from one system to another.... be it cameras or computers.

 

I appreciate the input, Darryl. More food for thought. Thanks.

 

--Ron







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